Irvine The Ignorant

February 28, 2009 @ 13:30

This is a posting from Mark Irvine, a former Ontarian turned Alberta oil baron. (in his own mind)

White people get handled different than brown folk?

You mean like how the media put so much emphasis on Jane Creba, a pretty middle class white girl that was killed in Toronto? Anyone remember the brown folk killed in a drive by while attending a funeral?

You know Fred, the part where YOUR industry focuses on the death of middle class white folks because it sells. A pretty white girl that gets shot at the Eaton Center is no more tragic than a fat ugly brown girl getting shot.

Just one sells more papers/brings in more ratings than the other.

So maybe that's why they feel so pissed ? You remind me of an American Bush voter. You can't seem to understand why the rest of the world thought he was a tool.

I'd love for you to be a minority for a while man.. but the closest thing you'll get to a minority is having a double burrito at Taco Bell

Mark Irvine

Hey Mark, just so you know my wife is Afro-Canadian. (a term her family refuses to use because its divisive, but I'll use it to make a point)

And by the way, because my wife is "brown" my kids are racially mixed.

If anything, this gives me a better perspective. My wife's family fled South Africa in the 50's because of apartheid. They wanted to give their kids a fair shot at life and they found that in Canada.

My wife's birth certificate has "coloured" stamped across it.

Her family lived in a one bedroom apartment in Scarborough with nothing but mattresses on the floor and they worked thier butts off to eventually buy a beautiful home and live a comfortable and safe life in Canada.

They never once looked for excuses, only for opportunity.... and this was during a time when they stood out as visible minorities and suffered the consequences.

Don't give me this shit about me not knowing what its like to be visible minority. My skin my be white, but I've been part of a "brown folk" family since 1973, and its amazing to see what can be accomplished when you take responsibility for your kids..... because you know Mark, that's the root problem.

I know its cool for psuedo intellectuals like yourself to look beyond the obvious and complicate things. But that is the root problem, parenting. Fix that and we go a long way in fixing the over-all problem.

As for the balance of coverage for the Creba shooting, get serious.

If Jane Creba had been black and shot on in cold blood, while shopping with her mother on Yonge St. on Boxing day it would have definately got the same coverage.

Gang related drives bys are a tad different. You talk big, but you really are an ignoramous.

And by the way, I never go to Taco Bell, I much prefer curry. My mother in law makes the best chicken curry on earth.

Freddie P.

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55 Responses to "Irvine The Ignorant"

Chet
February 28, 2009 / 15:18

Dog Fight-I love it.
We'll vever get over the race issues cause NEITHER side wants to.

Sweet Pam
February 28, 2009 / 16:44

Fred: How dare you suggest that Irvine is even "pseudo-intellectual". You give him more credit that he deserves.
I don't think I've read a more childish rant (Irvine's) and so laughably ignorant of the facts. And what does George Bush have to do with this??

Irvine: it is you who is pissed off -pissed off because George Bush has left office and you have nowhere to direct your latent hostility. Step away from the keyboard and get some therapy....

Trish
February 28, 2009 / 16:57

Mark Irvine - now THERE'S a white, anglo-saxon name! Who'd have thought that oil baron Mark would turn out to be a silver spoon socialist, defending the rights of "brown folk" everywhere.

Fred, your rebuttal is a classic, but you give this whack job too much attention and he loves every minute of it.

Tim
February 28, 2009 / 20:10

The media coverage is less when it's spineless thug shooting spineless thug, which seems to happen on a daily basis. When media coverage is intensified is when an innocent bystander, black, white, green or blue is gunned down while these assholes play grand theft auto in real life. What a jerk off. Freddie, you've been hitting the nail on the head for years..keep it up..loving you

Ed
February 28, 2009 / 21:49

Freddie I agree with the others in here that your giving this guy way too much credit, he's a typical winer that blames everyone else for the problems around him but never sees what he does wrong. You hit the nail on the head ....the root of many of todays problems is parenting! Parents need to take responsiblity for the actions of thier children or at least make the kids accountable for thier own actions. We fail our kids when we dont teach them right from wrong. Its not an easy job but we make the choice to take that job when we have kids. Parents need to stop taking the easy way out of tough situations and do whats right before things get totally out of control in this country.

Horonymous
March 1, 2009 / 01:15

We all want justice for the young man who was gunned down. Hopefully all Canadians will do their best to see these thugs who shot Abdikarim Ahmed Abdikarim wind up where they belong. The police need the help of the witnesses who were there.

Steve
March 1, 2009 / 14:57

The 2 scumbags that killed that kid and walked will no doubt resume their gangsta ways. Here's hoping we read about their sorry asses turning up dead some time soon. You reap what you sew.

Rick C in Oakville
March 1, 2009 / 15:38

Have to agree with you Steve, they never take the "get out of Jail" free card handed to them to correct their ways.

A fellow legion member(80+ years old) of my dads in North Scarborough received a beating from a couple of these brave gangsta types 2 years ago, he ended up dieing from complications from the beatings. The Punk got only 1 year as they couldn't pin the death on him as it happened a week later in the hospital. He was out in less than 6 months. The justice in this story was that he was gunned down shortly after his release by a rival gangsta.

Jon from (near) BUffalo
March 2, 2009 / 08:59

Freddie:
All you have to do is read the part where he somehow manages to bring George Bush into this situation....

That's all you need to know about the kind of "intellectual" you're dealing with!

Redneck Red
March 2, 2009 / 10:35

What do these oil barons do with their BILLIONS?

Chet
March 2, 2009 / 10:38

The Passionate Eye, a good CBC show that I hope gets funding and continues had a good show on last night about GM, electric cars and oil companies.
They kind of supported my theory of the string of oil supported Presidents doing what's best for big oil.
Reagan, Bush, then Bush. That's 20 yrs of favours etc.

Argie
March 2, 2009 / 11:05

Chet - A little off topic are we?

LEW
March 2, 2009 / 12:35

Please tell me how kids of parents that have zero parenting skills learn to become a good parent themselves? At what age can kids that will become terrible parents be identified; and what would you then have us do with them? Send them to parenting classes, take them away from their parents and foster them, sterilize them or cleanse them along with their child to be?

What we can do is not support a system that rewards chronic use of our welfare systems.

How about stiffer and automatic penalties for the possession of a weapon? All hand-guns must stay at a gun club - is there really any reason to be packing a rod? Farmers and back-country folk can still have their rifles, because they have a reason to have them in their possession.

The legalization of marijuana is another "root" that is not being dealt with. We are ignoring an industry that could contribute to our society like alcohol does, instead of creating the gang warfare as it does now.

PS. Mmmmmmmmm curry and beer

PPS. Now that your family would not need to have coloured stamped on their papers, would they ever recommend SA as a place to immigrate to? Didn’t think so; part of my family moved there in the 50’s, and the results you see today were the heed that my uncle spoke when we argued about apartheid.

Chet
March 2, 2009 / 13:31

Argie---Irv's the oil man and he's getting tar and feathered...so it's semi related.
Besides it may make another topic other than an Irv attack. Irv has denied that Bush controls oil. I know HE doesn't but HE knows someone who does. Thus a Texas Governor could become President.

Thomas
March 2, 2009 / 13:33

Stiff penalties for weapons...knives guns and for Sri Lankans machetes.
Throw them in jail where they will receive a 'stiff' penalty.

Steve Brown
March 2, 2009 / 15:41

Anybody remember the name of the white guy shot dead outside the Brass Rail on Yonge Street last year. This isn't a quiz, it's rhetoric (can someone explain the big word to Irvine)

Ball
March 3, 2009 / 10:33

Irvine defended me once in this forum and I would like to return the favour.

Look back at the hundreds of entries he has made... a lot of which are supported with facts and figures.

Although his assumption of Freddie missed the mark on this entry, you have to admit that he has been one of the main contributors of controversy here and usually defends his opinions.

Groucho
March 3, 2009 / 15:58

Discussion is what it's all about. Debate. Talk.

Putting people down for their opinions is a bit fascist. [for their actions like S. Page and the two 'babes' he was caught with is different].

Civilized nations talk. Uncivilized nations have one voice and one opinion.

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