December 19, 2008 / 17:08
Hi Fred. Thanks for taking on Irvine at last. The bottom line: you are much smarter than Irvine thinks he is. Irvine is a serial contrarian who continuously tries attempts us to buy his Western fantasy life and sell us his liberal views based on his own fictional successes. The reality is he works in a mail room and pulls in minimum wage. I'm wondering if Irvine's boss knows how he wastes company time...
December 19, 2008 / 18:53
Pam? Your repeating yourself and if I had the energy, I would find it in the archives. That seems to be your only comeback. Your mail room fantasy maybe?
December 20, 2008 / 07:26
The only reason Harper is doing what he is doing is because he was forced into a corner by a possible coalition.
Would he really be the 'rational' man if he had a majority government??? I don't think so. You can see the pain on his face that he has to now talk to people to get help on the economy.
You think he or Flaherty would be consulting with other finacial experts if the hadn't almost lost power??? NO FREAKIN' WAY. Harper is an arrogant pr!ck who is only rational because he has no choice.
December 20, 2008 / 10:28
You're right Sammi, we must always remember Harper is a horrible man who has nothing but his own interests in mind.
He hates Canada and if given a majority would only be focussed on ruining the country.
And actually, he wasn't forced into a corner.
If he was, he would have offered a package much earlier.
Instead, he was true to his word and said he'd move once the US bailout was announced.
December 20, 2008 / 12:49
Guys, you're making the mistake of thinking the auto bailout is the one and only action that needs to happen to help stimulate economy.
It will stimulate nothing. The auto bailout's sole purpose is to help prevent us from going further into the shitter, not to bring us up from where we are.
We don't have to wait for the Americans to act before we commit funds to transit, infrastructure, job training, and numerous other things that will get people working and help us start to climb out of this mess.
At least Harper's been scared into admitting that when the free-market system combines with a select wealthy few to screw the majority of people, government needs to be there to clean up the mess. I'm just thankful he wasn't in power three or four years earlier, or we'd be a lot worse off today than we are.
December 20, 2008 / 13:12
Mike - yes, I've said it before and thanks for noticing! I'm flattered.
December 20, 2008 / 13:16
Mikey. You're funny.
Would you consider even for a second, that the foundation of what we're going through right now was in place long before Harper was PM.
I doubt you will because it wouldn't fit into your fantasy.
December 20, 2008 / 15:59
Of course the foundation was there. What I'm saying is we'd be even worse off now if Harper had been in power a few more years.
For one, he only had a couple years to open up the mortgage insurance industry so that we could get our hands on insane 40 year, no money down mortgages. I'm sure you know what the housing situation is like in the U.S., that could very easily have been us too....
December 20, 2008 / 16:09
You're sinking Mikey.. better to stop now.
No money down mortgages are not allowed in Canada, and the 30 year mortgages that were offered have been withdrawn. And none of it had anything to do with Harper.
December 20, 2008 / 21:17
Sorry you feel that way Nick, but maybe this will pull me up. Mike from Lowville was kind enough to post this article here a little while back, perhaps you missed it.
Here's a quick snippet: "The expansion of zero-down, 40-year mortgages began with measures contained in the first Conservative budget in May of 2006."
"The proliferation of high-risk mortgages could have been mitigated if Ottawa had been more watchful."
Here's the article in full: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081213.MORTGAGE13/TPStory/National
Here's something from another article in B.C.: "The 40-year amortization mortgage with zero down is estimated to have accounted for a substantial portion of new mortgages in Canada during 2007 and 2008." (http://www.bclocalnews.com/business/36417139.html)
One more for you: "How Harper Gov't Pushed Financial Deregulation Here, Abroad." http://thetyee.ca/Views/2008/10/08/HarperEcon/
None of it had anything to do with Harper....I'm giggling like a schoolgirl! Because that's a joke. Talk to you soon Nick!!!
December 20, 2008 / 23:20
What selective memory people seem to have!
Harper and the Conservatives were jumping all over Martin so many years back when he was building up a surplus in case of a future economic crisis. I mean, he was almost laughed out of the Commons by the opposition who thought he was being far to financially cautious. Now guess what happened? Harper and his crew have taken that healthy surplus and spent it almost entirely in their first year and a half in power and now they're talking about a 30 billion dollar deficit.
What ever happened to the party of "responsible spending"?
December 21, 2008 / 11:04
Your man created an economic panel to help.
Keep your eyes on Carole Taylor, the chairperson. She is one astute lady, should be in Federal politics, and is one hot political babe.
I have stated continually that Harper's downfall is that he cannot attract good people to his party. She would change my opinion of him.
PS. Cadman in our riding is getting heat for not doing her job. Harper has to attract better than that scrag - our riding is a pay-off for the million dollar insurance scandal - we deserve better!
December 22, 2008 / 10:17
20% of USA retail sales is car sales.
That goes down and it's 1929 again.
Bailout is one thing. Now people have to buy.
December 22, 2008 / 10:50
THIS JUST IN: STEPHEN HARPER CAN DO NO WRONG!
Freddie…2 weeks ago, on these very pages you were slamming the coalition for wanting Harper to prepare a recession style budget with stimulus spending and support for the autos. Your argument went something like “Canada is in great shape compared to the rest of the world, why would Super Steve need to slip into a deficit just to support the spend-a-holics in the unholy coalition bent on stealing my vote” (It was the same day I pointed out that Canada lost 77,000 jobs in these very pages). Now, Super Steve is a hero because he is ready to slip into a deficit for years in order to support the struggling auto makers and the Canadian economy. So which is it Fred? Is he super for not wanting a deficit or for wanting one?
Not that I support either of Dion or Layton but seems as though they were ahead of the curve on this one and Stevie H missed the boat. Too bad he had to throw the country into a crisis and then decide to not show up for work for a month and a half during this difficult time to figure it out.
December 22, 2008 / 11:48
One of his panel members just resigned because he couldn't work with Harper....after only 3 weeks on the job.
What does that say about the 'rational' man??
December 22, 2008 / 16:05
Message to 45free (who doesn't leave a return e-mail)
I think you've misquoted me. To say the least.
I said Harper shouldn't move on a bailout or stimulus package until he finds out what the Americans are going to do.
And thats what he did.
Meanwhile, the stimulus package or bailout that your ilk demanded will cause a deficit.
December 22, 2008 / 16:28
Harper may be a trained economist, but remember, he's a politician first, and that makes him a crappy economist.
Most economists agree, dropping the GST and raising the bottom bracket income tax rate a half point was a stupid move.
i don't care about the deficit - but i am pissed off that harper mislead the country about the pending deficit all through the election he broke his own law to call.
harper continues to demonstrate he is more concerned about his own career and party than he is about the country.
December 23, 2008 / 07:55
Freddie...no return e-mail because I do not store my info on my work PC and was in a hurry.
As for misquoting...I was more paraphrasing. My comment two weeks ago was that Harper should have something prepared just in case and that it would be prudent to have something ready for when the US moved on the auto bailout. I would not have suggested that if you had.
As for the deficit...of course this was going to cause a deficit but that is not the point. The point is that Harper kept telling us we did not need a deficit and that you were praising him for it and now you are calling him the rational man for flip flopping.
Freddie, I was a card carrying conservative for years and would love to have a conservative option to support but I cannot get behind the current reform style politics. I began supporting the libs because of Paul Martin back when he was finance minister and had a business positive social conscience. He showed one can provide for social programs without killing business or running huge deficits. I have to say that for the first time since I turned 18, I almost did not vote in the last election and that makes me sad as a Canadian.
I comment in these pages Fred because you seem to think that Harper can do no wrong (re-read your flip-flop post where you supposedly criticize Harper for flip flopping). You are conservative hard stop. There are other opinions out there, other options and other ideas that just might make sense (read the section of the last lib platform about using interest savings from paying down the debt to provide additional permanent funding for healthcare with a focus on certifying more professionals...again...paraphrasing).
December 23, 2008 / 15:52
Fred said:
"No wonder if an election was held tomorrow he'd win a majority in a landslide."
One was held in just over two monts ago in October, and that wasn't the case. That same prediction was uttered before that election, was it not?
December 23, 2008 / 15:59
@ Nick who claimed Mikey was "sinking"
Warnings about risky mortgages ignored
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081218.RMORTGAGE18/TPStory/National
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