December 9, 2008 / 23:22
The way out of this mess we are in will require Canada being viewed as a stable platform for investment.
But, what have we got. A coalition cobbled together by three grasping power hungry factions. Viewed from the outside Canada would be governed by a coalition headed by some dude who his own party doesn't want, another with socialist tendencies, and the other group whose sole aim is to fracture the country.
What a great place to invest in - I'll throw some money into that.
December 10, 2008 / 00:38
Might be a great day for Canada, but not a good day for Harper.
Dion was a water pistol up against Harper. Ignatieff is an AK-47 that's center-right. Harper's second worst nightmare appeared (Manley would have been his first).
December 10, 2008 / 10:27
It was a great day.
I agree with Fred on this one.
But will it lead to the end of Harper? I doubt it. But we will have a competent opposition.
December 10, 2008 / 10:29
At least Iggy doesn't have that French Connection---it's not apparent anyway.
December 10, 2008 / 11:28
If Ignatieff can show up Harper all the power to him. Nothing better than competition to make them work for our vote.
December 10, 2008 / 11:55
Having Rae out of the picture is great for Canada... that bum isn't qualified to successfully look after a fish tank... and Irvine is correct, it may not that great for Harper.
Let's hope the electorate remember the actions of the 3 parties when we are at the polls next... although history tells us the electorate has a very short memory, if one at all.
Hey Irvine, any connection to your political views, referencing a communist made weapon as opposed to choosing something from the democratic world?
December 10, 2008 / 11:56
Fred, you give Ignatieff way too much credit. First off, while he may have been an academic and author for most of his life, he's now very much a politician through and through.
If a confidence vote was allowed to take place, Ignatieff would have voted to defeat the government. He also stated he would not serve in the cabinet of the coalition government. Basically, he would have positioned himself to say he did or did not support the coalition depending on the Canadian people's reaction after it had been in power for a length of time. He planned to play that whole situation like a politician, and good on him for doing so.
So please don't say it was because he respected your vote or our democracy. Your vote has been counted, and has been respected throughout this entire situation. As someone who believes strongly in the parliamentary system I find it extremely deceitful to use that point as a part of your argument. Say you hate the idea of a coalition, say you loathe the NDP and the Bloc, even say you'd much prefer the American style of democracy, those are all valid points.
December 10, 2008 / 12:42
All politicians are slimy, but there's something about the NDP that's particularly despicable. With Layton and Rae (yes, Rae) as their posterboys, this party will be toast in the next election. All anyone will remember is how Layton frothed at the mouth like a rabid dog when Dion dangled a cabinet job under his nose...
December 10, 2008 / 14:42
Harper's Budget = One Huge Gift Basket
December 10, 2008 / 15:43
You make some good points, Fred. Ignatieff may well bring back respectability to the Liberals. When we do have another election, canadians will remember that he was cautious, didn't rush into the misguided coalition, and wasn't scheduled for a cabinet seat.
But - it seems like he has been appointed permanently. Shouldn't he be interim leader until a leadership race can be held as was originally scheduled?
December 10, 2008 / 16:09
Ball, have you ever tried to take care of a fish tank? F'n bitch to keep those little bastards from dying on you constantly... :)
Mikey, can't win with you... For the first time in a long time people give the Liberals some credit for getting Ignatieff in charge... and you find fault. Man I'm glad I'm not your wife... you must be and impossible to please. :)
December 10, 2008 / 17:51
Pam, we can only hope that you are right.
December 10, 2008 / 21:43
I think this entire Dion quits, Iggy takes control thing was an orchestrated plan by the Liberals.
Trish: -> This appointment isn't any different than Harper dropping in candidates in places like Milton or Sherwood Park, AB. Just in the AB case, people fought back.
December 10, 2008 / 22:21
I think Ignatief will do a good job, and hopefully, as I just watched on tv, he'll do as he says and bring Harper down. Though I am a little concerned Harper will present something repectable to salvage our economy, and Ignatief will fall for it. Whereas Rae wasn't going to stand for any of Harper's b.s. I don't give a crap who leads the Liberals, because I think they are all on the same page, along with the N.D.P., they will work to restore our economy, unlike that IDIOT Harper. There is the Right, then there is Harper, Ultra,Ultra Right. Great for Capitalist, not for Canada. Get Rid Of Him. Steven Harper Is Trouble.(I think there is an acronym there)
December 10, 2008 / 23:12
Pauly - I just wanted to clear up some inconsistencies in Freddie's post. While I do believe he'll be a better leader for the Liberal party, he doesn't respect the basis of our democracy or our votes any more or less than any other of the party leaders. But there's definitely one thing we can agree on, I'm glad you're not my wife too. Imagine how we'd bicker!
Also, to clear things up for everyone (including the Conservative party if you read their latest fundraising letter), Ignatieff has in fact been named interim leader. He will be made the permanent leader at the party convention in May.
December 10, 2008 / 23:30
Irvine... don't you mean it's no different than the Liberals promising not to run a candidate in in Elizabeth May's riding?
December 10, 2008 / 23:34
Dan, Harper is Ultra Ultra Right? Wow... Right of Center at best.
December 10, 2008 / 23:34
Mikey depends if you can cook. :)
December 10, 2008 / 23:50
Irvine - No matter which party is concerned, canadians SHOULD fight back as they did this past week. I have no problem with Ignatieff as liberal leader, but he should go through the proper channels.
December 11, 2008 / 02:50
Fred:
Why don't you quit radio and apply for a job as a Stephen Harper fart catcher. Like you buddy Stevie boy you can be stir up hate on turn up the heat on national unity...and ignore the fact that a vast majority...some 62 per cent voted no to your Mike Harris brand of Conservatism that turned the welath of the 90s into the reccession of today....and stole from the poor to give to the rich
December 11, 2008 / 10:52
Hey casual observer,
You're not Stephane Dion using a pseudonym are you?
Judging by your writing it is obvious, there is no way English is your first language.
December 11, 2008 / 12:09
Casual Observer, Please reread your post and tell us if it makes any sense to you.
What does this mean?
" Like you buddy Stevie boy you can be stir up hate on turn up the heat on national unity."
Now I know you translated this from left wing gibberish that's why we can't understand it.
December 11, 2008 / 13:35
Looks to me like Casual Observer borrowed some anti-Harper rhetoric from Liberal HQ (The Star) and tried to make a coherent sentence...
December 11, 2008 / 13:49
Since Freddy hasn't posted anything so far today check out this news clip. I am sure the NDP and the CAW can give you 1 million reasons why this wouldn't work in Canada.
http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189
December 11, 2008 / 16:25
It would be fantastic if they could build that kind of plant here in Canada, and cars came out of it that people actually wanted to buy!
December 11, 2008 / 20:53
Holy crap, did you see now the LIBERALS stole 54 BILLION dollars out of the EI fund while in power.
Magical isn't it, how they had a surplus!
December 11, 2008 / 22:46
Pauly, give me a frickin' break dude! If he was anywhere near centre, he would be concerned for Canadian jobs but instead he wants a wider margin between the rich and poor.
December 12, 2008 / 10:44
Dan, As far as I'm aware everyone on the planet is concerned about jobs. Being left wing or right wing in your politcal views has nothing to do with your concern for Jobs.
Please give me and example of Harper wanting a wider margin between the rich and poor. How does he do such a thing? tax the poor and give to the rich?
December 12, 2008 / 10:51
Gov't took a load from the gov't worker's pension fund and made a law to do so.
So when they bragged about a surplus it wasn't from getting rid of top heavy Ottawa gov't executives...
December 13, 2008 / 02:49
dave - someone had to do something to clean up Mulroney's mess.
December 14, 2008 / 22:19
I do not recall a coalition type of arrangement on the last ballot.The best thing to happen was for Bob Rae to back down, he destroyed Ontario and Canada could have been next.Harper has a few problems but what you lefties don't like is he has tried to do what he said he would do if elected.Unfortunately all politicians have no morals or ethics so you get what you pay for Steve
December 16, 2008 / 23:34
Pauly, I don't beleive for a second that Harper or Flarhety are the least bit concerned about manufacturing jobs. He's made it pretty clear that he wants the Big3 to fail so we can all fight for $10/hr jobs. With a dwindling tax base to draw from, he can throw out the idea of privatizing hospitals and lord knows what else after that. He sure was quick to toss money to the oil companies and banks but why so hesitant to the biggest tax draw in the country? Why wouldn't Harper want to protect manufacturing and have it flourish in Canada? Because they are/were doing too well for themselves and there needs to be a much larger gap between the rich and the poor. That's just the way Capialist Pigs like it.
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