November 25, 2008 / 10:13
You can put up all the windmills you want, but 50 years from now they will all be dismantled and written off as an absurdly stupid idea from the Suzuki's of the world.
November 25, 2008 / 10:40
Speyside Phil? The air a little thin up there in Cloud Nine Acres? That statement is asinine, to say the least. Tell that to all the European countries that have implemented wind turbines. Freddie, you my friend and many like you are put of the problem and not the solution. Anybody that says man has zero impact on the environment has less IQ than the number Leafs Stanley Cup wins.
November 25, 2008 / 10:47
Years ago when the USA went to a 55 mph speed limit on the highways during an oil crunch they conserved a huge amount.
Together we can all have a big impact.
As for the windmill in a year or so it will look unique. Property values....hahaha...''oh my, George, there's a windmill out on the lake...look through the binocs...see!!!!...I can invite my friends to visit with that thing out there"...'we'll buy in Rosedale'. enough hot air there to run a windmill.
November 25, 2008 / 11:07
I knew the Dutch we're right. Did they have to ask Suzuki??
You're too regional for this issue Fred, go back to the wearing your Wendell moustache.
November 25, 2008 / 12:35
Well I live in the affected area and i'm OK with it. They will be 2 Km's offshore for F'sake there not putting anything in our backyards . And for those that can't be bothered with facts last nights meeting was about putting up an an anemometer to see if there is enough wind to actually drive windmills. My guess is no. Having been on the huronshore and having experianced the "Normal" windflow there versus the shore of Lake Ontario in Scarborough. Either way it will take years to put them up and panicing and nimbyism is just Useless.
November 25, 2008 / 15:29
A$$hats
November 25, 2008 / 16:02
It's very strange how all the enviro nutcases are drawn to this site. Very strange indeed.
November 25, 2008 / 16:31
No Phil, intelligent people are drawn to the website.
We should be looking into alternative power sources. Maybe this particular one won't but causing less polution can only be a good thing regardless of whether or not you think Global Warming is real.
November 25, 2008 / 19:18
me smart
me listen to geneticist and washed up politician about what to think about global warming hysteria duhhhhhhhhh
November 25, 2008 / 20:27
Hopefully they will turn more revolutions than the one at the CNE. Just throwing this out there but how much of a carbon footprint is generated to produce one of these? Concrete and steel are not the most environmentaly friendly to produce. I would like to see a comparison of power produced to how much it takes to produce 1 windmill.
November 25, 2008 / 21:16
Rick C:
The EROEI (energy return on energy invested) in wind power is about 15:1 depending on where the setup is. Tar sands oil extraction has an EROEI of about 2:1. Conventional well holes run about 20:1.
The leader in wind power in Canada is Alberta. We produce more wind power than Ontario does with about 9 million less people. This number will increase substantially when new farms come online in Pincher Creek in the next couple of years
Speyside Phil: You're obviously oblivious to the fact fossil fuels are in short supply. Don't believe me? Well, why would all this money be invested in Fort McMoney with a EROEI of 2:1? In case you aren't aware, I'm employed in the energy industry (and in fact, in Refinery Row in Edmonton right now.
For those of you complaining about the "sight" of wind mills. As you wish to continue to use fossil fuels, you'll gladly take the gunk from up in Fort Mac, right?. You can use the water from the tailing ponds in your pool.
November 25, 2008 / 22:48
You know the windmills we have here in Lake Erie actually look kind of majestic.
The birds will fly through them.
Now if only they could get the damn things to work.
November 26, 2008 / 11:02
You'd think Niagara Falls could power all of Ontario?
November 26, 2008 / 11:06
I too watched the news last night with disbelief as residents went on about the various "side Effects" of the the proposed Wind Farm. There was a clip of the offshore Wind Farm in Copenhagen harbour which I had the pleasure of seeing first hand
earlier this year and it is inspiring to say the least. I also have a property along the shores of Lake Erie in the middle of a Wind Farm that is also in the middle of a major Migratory path as the following quote describes..... Wildlife Viewing - Port Burwell is one of the best locations along the Lake Erie shoreline to see spring and fall migration. Perhaps the most thrilling aspect is the fall migration of hawks, vultures, and eagles. You can also witness monarch butterflies, blue jays and dragonflies on their spectacular migration. More than 85 species of migratory birds have been spotted here in the spring and our bird check list includes 232 species. Lake Erie presents a barrier to these seasonal movements so the flow of migrants concentrates at and moves along the shoreline in both the spring and fall. The park is an undiscovered birder's paradise. It is located centrally between the renowned birding areas of Long Point, Rondeau and Point Pelee so the quantity and quality of birding is excellent...........The birds still fly by in huge numbers and you can't actually hear the turbines unless you are directly under them!
A Wind Farm in my backyard -
No Problem!
November 26, 2008 / 11:31
Ah come on what's the problem?
The toronto waterfront is already choked with ugly condos, why not put the final nail in the coffin and build the windmills.
One thing I dont' udnerstand though. Why build it within sight of a major populous? What is wrong with building a hundred windmills on the windswept bruce penninsula? One reason AC current was developed was because DC current cannot travel long distances. There is no need to have powerplants close by.
November 26, 2008 / 13:41
So far they want to build a testing device to see if there is enough wind to then build a windmill.
Scientifically you wet one finger and hold it up. The Guild Residents have wet a different finger.
November 28, 2008 / 03:42
Take a trip over the skyway in Hamilton, a wind farm would look head and tails better than what we have to look at now (and more still coming) Please send them our way!
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