November 28, 2007 / 10:37
"When applied to this issue that's ridiculous. Stephen Harper knows that in the best of situations, even those who sign on to any deal will probably end up breaking the rules, so what's the use of having a deal without having everyone involved and at least having everyone accountable."
Fred I forgot you were Harpers confident and knew exactly why and how he was doing this.
By your logic lets do away with laws altogether in Canada, I mean if others aren't going to follow them and a lot can get away with not following them why should I. I mean accountability yeah if I get caught I could face time, but lets be realistic I could probably get off with a slap on the wrist.
Once again only ignorant children worry about what the other kid is doing and less about themselves. Oh and lets get it right, Harper isn't sticking his neck out as a revolutionary. He's following suit of his big pal south of the border. No conspiracy theory there Fred the US or rather Bush refused to sign kyoto, and now Harper is doing the same thing. He is by no means looking at the bigger picture
and definitely not the martyr for the stance he took.
Fred I can't wait for you to come forward in the future and tell us all why Harpers makes the big descisions he does.
November 28, 2007 / 10:56
Fred, you continually try to make this a Liberal/Conservative issue and it is not, it is an issue between right and wrong; that is why I post.
Harper wanted to pull out of Kyoto, fine pull out; because it is flawed, but to do so it is his responsibility to figure out what he WILL do.
Here is the angle Fred, next month in Bali is THE time Harper needs to actually stand up and say what he intends to do, if not we will probably be the only free nation to still have our head up our ass. Up to now has he played possum for this moment or is he really this naïve to our responsibilities?
November 28, 2007 / 10:59
WOW!! The left's arguments are getting quite stale.
November 28, 2007 / 11:04
Wow I took a few days off from stopping in here and look what I find, another post about Harper the Great.
Fred, give me a list of five great things he has done.
November 28, 2007 / 11:33
Jason
1. He united the right and gave Canada a viable choice other than the liberals.
2. He beat the Liberals in an election, removing a corrupt or clueless(your choice)regime.
3. He reduced the GST (twice)
4. He has vowed to reform the Senate(a somewhat dated institution)
5. Pretty much does what he says he will do, which is kind of refreshing in politics (See #3 - I think the Liberals meant to eliminate this little tax but never had time to get it done in the 12 years they were at the helm)
November 28, 2007 / 11:36
Well said Nigel, but it won't crack the politically deaf and blind.
November 28, 2007 / 11:41
Thanks Nigel... that didn't take long eh? And you only had 1.5 years to work with... That's a longer list than Liberals supporters can put together for 11 years.
Hey Fred, again another great comment.
November 28, 2007 / 12:59
"His first crime obviously is that he's a Conservative"
Wrong. He's a Reform Party guy who has co-opted the Conservative name. We should all mourn the passing of the Progressive Conservative party. Shame on you Peter McKay.
November 28, 2007 / 13:09
Nigel,
Harper may not be perfect (probably far from it) just like the rest of us but at least he does what he said he would do if elected.
I am with Fred here, why is everybody giving him a hard time. So far he has put more money back into my pocket during the past 18 months than the liberals did in 12 years.
Everybody is always squaking about being overtaxed and then when this guy comes along giving us some money back, all the while paying down the nations deficit, people are still pissed off. I don't get it.
November 28, 2007 / 13:17
Thank you mike from oakville. Everyone seems to glide over that fact I would take the Progressive Conservatives over this group any time. A point I continually try to put forward is remember this is the Conservatives which is made up in part of that loonie group the Alliance, with Stockwell Day in tow. Nigel he gave Canada another viable choice, that's funny it's the same choice that was always there vote liberal or conservative or pc you take your pick. A viable choice would be a 4th party that doesn't have crooks like the liberals did and aren't swinging so far to the right on the reform scale. Beating the Liberals in an eleciton isn't a great thing it happened, I would hardly call that a great thing done.
Paul- Liberals balanced the books and gave off an in the black governement rather than an in the red.
Once again we can round and round this merry go round in a stalemate. It becomes quite amusing.
November 28, 2007 / 13:19
Mike - The progressive conservative party was a joke. Thank God the reform party was formed and out of it came Harper. The PCs were essentially the same party as the Liberals. Just look at their leaders - Joe Clark & Brian Mulroney.
November 28, 2007 / 14:15
Argie, tell that to Sir John A. Macdonald. Your comments are getting more ludicrous every day.
November 28, 2007 / 14:18
I am laughing out loud right now Mike from Lowville. You hit the nail on the head there. Argie I am worried about you.
November 28, 2007 / 14:26
Nigel Trousershrapnel
If those are the only 5 great things he has done I truly feel for our country. Your expectations aren't that high, are they?
By the way, Fred thinks his decision on Global Warming is a great thing. Might want to revise your list.
November 28, 2007 / 14:36
Mike: I'm laughing silently at your comments. Sir John A. was a corrupt drunk. Obviously the party was a joke - they're no longer around.
November 28, 2007 / 14:36
Mike from Oakville
"The progessive consevative party of canada"
only had 4 prime minsters in their history.
While the true "tory blue" conservative party of Canada has had 7 prime ministers.
All they did was unite the right under a banner as old as confederation.
November 28, 2007 / 14:37
Mike from Oakville
"The progessive consevative party of canada"
only had 4 prime minsters in their history.
While the true "tory blue" conservative party of Canada has had 7 prime ministers.
All they did was reunite the right under a banner as old as confederation.
December 2, 2007 / 22:47
stephan harper is alliance not conservative,new agenda,very slow for every one to see what he is really all about,dosn't repect women or children,many cuts to social programs that support people getting out of poverty,narrow point of view on many issues,controls media and his mp's,he is homophobic
Quite the response to yesterday's posting "A Solid Leader." It never fails, any posting I make with Stephen Harper as the focus gets a lot of reaction.
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