October 31, 2007 / 10:22
Am I wrong or did you just hit the nail on the head Freddie?
Another broken Liberal Promise didnt see any reduction in the GST.
But a Conservitive promise being full-filled.
Funny eh, the province would rather have politicians baffel them with bull-shit instead of dazzeling them with briliance.!
Just imagine what we really could achieve if we had a majority conservitive government and they came through on all there promises.
WOW just imagine.
October 31, 2007 / 10:39
Not much to add because you are bang on. A cut in any taxes is good enough for me.
October 31, 2007 / 11:07
It's the global economy that has evolved. Economists argue that cutting income taxes and corporate taxes has a more positive effect on the economy of countries where labour costs are high. Look around the world at countries whose economies have noticeably improved recently and they either have cheap labour (India, China) or have followed the strategy of deep coporate tax cuts while keeping consumption taxes high (Ireland, a few European countries). Tax cuts are good, but some are better than others, because they strengthen the economy more. Harper perhaps didn't realize this when he made his election promise and then felt he had to keep it.
October 31, 2007 / 11:08
Yet I can not figure out the polls since the Conservatives have lost 3% in a recent poll
Conservartives 33%
Liberals 29%
NDP 14%
Green 10%
What is wrong with these people?
October 31, 2007 / 11:14
The problem is, when Governments introduce, add, amend something, it is sometimes very hard to delete/amend said changes. I have to agree with the opposition though. Shaving that tax does not help the working poor.It will only benefit the ones who have the money to spend. How much money do WE have just lying around to spend, spend, spend on big ticket items? Not me. The wealthy, who have money to burn are the ones who benefit most on this. Shave the income tax (the real tax cut) for middle class and lower income and put some of that money in OUR pockets to spend or save instead of shaving the G.od awful S.tupid T.ax. Thanks for the memories BRIAN!
October 31, 2007 / 11:17
Frank the tank has nailed it as well. In my opinion, in general, the populous understands that taxes must be paid in order to fund this large mass of a country with a small population. We have a looming healthcare crisis - with boomers hitting the costly age. Why not steer some of this revenue back to the provincial healtcare systems as well as education!
Like Frank states correctly, what difference will a few hundred bucks make at the end of the day?.......
October 31, 2007 / 11:29
Big J? You said, "Just imagine what we really could achieve if we had a majority Conservative government and they came through on all there promises.
WOW just imagine."
You really need to have your morning coffee before you post. That is a nightmare to imagine. Harper would turn us into the 51st State.
(spelling corrected) C-
October 31, 2007 / 12:10
take the politics out of it, and you'll realize that cutting the gst was a stupid move.
20 out of 20 economists agree - income tax cuts are better than gst cuts. in fact, the gst should be harmonized with the pst. gst is great for business - we get it all back. pst sucks - if pst was refundable like gst, we'd spend a lot more on capital equipment.
harper isn't a moron, he knows this is a stupid move economically, but it was politically expedient. why can't we get a pm who will do the right things, rather than just what will get him elected?
and frankly - you ignorant partisans are part of the problem. all hooting and hollering about dion and harper and bullshit, and no discussion of the merits of the policies. thanks for nothing dumbasses.
October 31, 2007 / 12:40
Mike from Lowville, give it up.
That is such a tired old socialist argument it hardly deserves a response.
The original posting is correct, how on earth can anyone complain about a GST cut given the history of this tax.
Yesterday you accused Freddie of hating anything Liberal, I think you might have the same Conservative bias.
October 31, 2007 / 13:07
I am happy to see the tax cut. I would be happier to see a broader cut to income tax but I know we need the tax to pay for our Country. What should be addressed is how and where the money is spent. Everyone gets bent out of shape about taxes but not as much as to exactly where the money is spent.
As for the Liberal/Conservative debate, I don't hate every Liberal and I don't hate everything Conservative. Right now it is leadership that matters. Dion is terrible, I would not want him running the Country. Having said that, I am not convinced on Harper but in the past year he hasn't done anything to make me think we would be the 51st state. I really don't think that Harper is a big Bush fan. Fighting Bush outright would not do Canada any good. We've seen what happens when Countries disagree with the U.S.
Would I vote PC? I am not sure, I didn't vote for them at the last Federal election. I wouldn't vote Liberal with Dion as the leader. NDP...haha.
I am a little tired of FreddieP's constant accusation that every Liberal is a liar. McGunity..yes. Dion..not a liar but an idiot.
October 31, 2007 / 13:26
A 1% reduction in the GST gets me 13 bucks a month or 156 bucks a year.
This is the second 1% reduction.
So I am actually saving 26 bucks a month or 312 bucks a year with the GST at 5%.
I'll take it.
I will bitch and complain about it, but I will take it.
I can use it to pay for my kids hockey next year, as long as they don't schedule any games on Halloween, or Easter, or Ramadan, or on Gay Pride Day.........
October 31, 2007 / 13:40
Mike from Lowville - am I missing something. On one hand you call the GST that Goddamn Stupid Tax and sarcastically thank Mulroney for it, yet on the other hand you don't want to see it reduced. Strange.
October 31, 2007 / 15:13
Frank the Tank nailed it other than the Western bit, unless, like the party in power the belief is that Canada ends at the Rockies.
The cutting of the GST is a great move for business, and with today's dollar and declining American economy, big Canadian business will need the help. This does not help the middle class at all. That could be achieved by stopping the set percentage cut of gas money and making it a sliding scale. We could use help with a daycare aid that actually helps all people with school age children, and I'm sure we could go on with our own issues.
Politically, this proves that the conservatives have finally grown up; they had their foot on the Liberals throat over the throne speech, and Harper just pushed a little harder, good politics, bad management for the middle class once again, or as always.
October 31, 2007 / 15:38
I hate to agree with Mike but its just political optics by the Conservatives. I'm a true conservative but I don't agree with the GST reduction. More tax breaks across the board would have been preferable. By reducing the GST 1%, the consumers benefit very little while the govt collect fewer taxes. If anything, it will increase consumer spending which judging by our economic stats is the last thing we need.
What many people fail to realize is that if the GST were to be eliminated completely tomorrow, the stores would only raise the price of their products, since the consumer demand is clearly there.
October 31, 2007 / 16:07
Mike from Lowville: Why don't you find a new tune to sing? Or join the staff of the Toronto Star - those tired old warnings about "hidden agendas" and "in bed with Bush" just don't wash any more. Admit it, you Harper naysayers are teed off because none of your dire predictions have come true. Harper has outsmarted you simply by doing a good job and ignoring your Chicken Little rants about him...
October 31, 2007 / 16:33
Pam? Your just too smart for me. You seem to have a handle on all things. Tell me, will I win a lottery? Will I be famous? Will I be happy? Nevermind...I don't want to know. I want to be surprised. Oh, can you say SPP?
Gene? It may be tired but true. You think I might have the same Conservative bias?
You think?
October 31, 2007 / 17:09
only in Canada would people ACTUALLY be complaining about a tax cut.
it's insane.
October 31, 2007 / 17:44
Well said said Pam.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
October 31, 2007 / 19:34
You gotta admit - those "Harper naysayers" (thanks, Pam!) liven up a dull day. They are freakin' hilarious!
October 31, 2007 / 20:10
Pam, Phil and Trish perhaps you three should start singing a new tune. As for harper doing a good job hmmm what kind of economy did the liberals hand over to conservatives???????????????? I could put more question marks in there but the fact of the matter is that while Mike from Lowville might be skewed to the left you three have gone over and above on the right wing side. As for tired old warnings of him being in bed with bush they aren't warnings when they are actual occurrences they are merely a presentation of the facts. No the sky hasn't fallen but harper has been kept more in check by the fact that he runs a minority government. Take it like it is and I agree that the liberals needed to know some humility and were becoming bloated with power, but put things into perspective... Well put things into perspective and you three look in the mirror to see how far right you have gone.
October 31, 2007 / 23:50
Here's an idea...why don't we stop with the left / right nonsense and stand together in ensuring that governments (all levels) stop spending OUR money like they found it on a friggin tree someplace.
November 1, 2007 / 00:22
Poor lefties. You are right Pam. Since Harper came into office, no dead babies have been found sacrificed on alters, the world as we know it has not come to an end, the economy is rolling right along and I and everyone I know are still going to bed at night with food in our stomachs and a warm bed to sleep in. And if any of you are not, you are not working hard enough in this land of opportunity and wealth.
November 1, 2007 / 05:49
If Harper ever forms a majority, I suspect a lot of us would be singing a different tune.
Don't forget his ideals are REFORM ideals. I know someone who knows him well and he is struggling right now because he can't implement his real agenda.
The minority government is what's keeping him real and looking good right now. Let's keep it that way.
Don't give this guy a majoity.
November 1, 2007 / 05:51
Oh crap....I spelled majority wrong....well you get what I am saying.
November 1, 2007 / 08:30
Take a look at this the article is interesting ona couple points but also shows how easily people want to toss around the "Racist" card. http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/272579
November 1, 2007 / 09:07
A liberal voter is a STUPID voter... REALLY STUPID!!
November 1, 2007 / 09:22
Mike D...... I have nothing to say your comment speaks for the intelligence you maintain.
November 1, 2007 / 10:24
Frank, it is interesting that the two combatants did not bring up the R word, but the media found someone who would???
The article does spotlight the Conservative's political strategy; you'll be lucky to get a Conservative MP to a Scouts badge ceremony until the next election is over. Everyone just shut up and let the Liberals hang themselves.
November 2, 2007 / 01:15
Sammi it's pointless pointing out Harper is Reform to this crowd.
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