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Dan Duran Checks In

June 8, 2007 @ 09:14

Ironically, I was going to write about this disappointing story today but then I received this e-mail from my good friend Dan Duran.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Hey Fred:

"I find it interesting that your Golden Boy Mr. Harper sat down in the 'good old style politics chair" and did exactly what his Minister of Foreign Affairs Mr. McKay said 3 weeks ago that his party would not do; "We will not throw a member out of caucus for voting his conscience. There will be no whipping, flipping, hiring or firing on budget votes as we saw with the Liberal government."
So the moment Conservative Nova Scotia MP, Bill Casey, votes no on the budget because he feels that it screws with the Atlantic accord (of which I have no opinion on) walks out of parliament he is kicked out of the party.
What a disappointing load of crap. I thought that the conservatives were taking the high ethical road here. But no. Harper is starting to take pages out of Jean Chretien's 'my way or da highway' book and it bugs me. True stripes are starting to show.
I voted for my MP to vote for my community's interest and that should be respected by the party they are part of.
Isn't that what this whole democracy thing is about?"

Dan Duran

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13 Responses to "Dan Duran Checks In"


Stephen
June 8, 2007 / 10:56

I think Dan is a little naive. You are voting for the party that you feel will best represent your ideas and concerns. If every MP regardless of party, voted according to the wishes of their community we would end up with a dead locked parliament. Nothing would get done. The rules of parliament are simple: if you vote against your party's budget you are gone. It is one vote that must be whipped.


Trish
June 8, 2007 / 11:18

I don't buy it, either. So what? Chretien and Martin pulled stuff like that every day of the week. I'm sorry, my friend, but Harper just doesn't measure up to their sleaze.


Ben
June 8, 2007 / 12:33

Harper doesn't measure up to their sleeze... Hmm ok then he's just a hypocrit. However you want to look at it if Chretien did it over his long reign and paul Martin did it in his short one. Harper is on par to do the samething. Don't say one thing and do another because you are both a liar and a hypocrit. Proof is in our province with McGuinty. You vote for a party that you believe holds your ideals, but you also vote for the person on how they are going to represent you. My question for both trish and stephen is if you knew your candidate for PC was a biggot you would vote for him purely beause he's PC?

With your reasoning and mindset we would become just like the states where you vote republican or democrat even you hate the guy that's going into the office.

Stephen with regards to your little comment about deadlock parliment. Bahh give me a break if the budget is going to adversly affect your community or province hell yeah vote against it. This wasn't something small and petty.

If you think this way I suggest moving a little more south is perhaps what you want to do. Those red states hold onto the same views as you.


Lunar Idiocy
June 8, 2007 / 12:47

Wow normally I just come here to read the blog and look at comments. But today the comments I would consider come from a totalitarin view. Why even involve the democratic process if because you are with the party you have to vote with the party . That's BS. It's not BS it's just stupid. Elected officials are "representatives" of the community that votes them in. I can repeat the word representative. Ok one more time representative. If something is being put forward that isn't REPRESENTATIVE of your constituents, then as a REPRESENTATIVE of these constiuents you REPRESENT their best interest.

AS for both of you excusing Harper from lying and as Ben said hypocrisy, by comparing him to the lies of others you show a lack of intelligence. So a murderer that kills one person is better than the murderer who kills 12. Face it harper lied plain and simple get over your one sided, blind belief and take it for what it was a lie and he was wrong to do it or wrong to let one of his party say they would do otherwise.

I also have to go back to Trish' so what the others did this too. Stupid stupid comment.


Jason Meltzer Patterson
June 8, 2007 / 14:28

Atta boy Danny!!!


Jason Meltzer Patterson
June 8, 2007 / 14:28

Atta boy Danny!!!


Trish
June 8, 2007 / 14:40

Speaking of intelligence, there's still time for Lunar idiot to get a grade school education.


Sweet Pam
June 8, 2007 / 14:58

Lunar: Good God!!! Do you expect us to believe you know the meaning of "totalitarianism" when you can't even spell it?? I'm not even sure what your posting is about!! If you expect anyone to take your comments seriously, then I would suggest proofreading. Good God, is this what the schools are producing??


Trish
June 8, 2007 / 15:27

Ben, in answer to your question, I don't vote for the party. I vote on the issues, thus I have voted both PC and Liberal in past elections. I'm ashamed to admit I turned in an NDP vote because I thought Miller as mayor would do a better job. I should have known better, because the city of Toronto is filthy and rotten to the core since he took over. Take warning Romy and Dan Duran and all the rest of you socialists. This is what happens when the NDP is in charge...

PS- Everyone is a bigot to some degree.


Stephen
June 8, 2007 / 15:48

Wow...Ben and Lunar must be having a bad day. MP's are more then able to vote against the budget but the rules are pretty clear...vote against the budget and you are gone. As a matter of record Harper never once said he would NOT kick an MP out of caucus for voting against a budget. That was the one exception. It is parliamentary tradition not to vote against your party in a confidence motion.

As for voting for a biggot...what is the relevance to this issue? Most people vote on issues not for the party. Why do you think every party chases the "swing" vote.


Sweet Pam
June 8, 2007 / 16:09

Duran Duran: Why don't you get Stephane Dion to explain "democracy" to you (at least his version of it). Basically, it means forbidding qualified white male MP candidates from running in certain ridings, so that that visible minorities and women can run instead, regardless of their abilities and thereby fulfilling Dion's special interest quotas...


Trish
June 8, 2007 / 16:30

Explain to me how voting for your MP for your community's interest works. How does voting for a candidate who will create more parks in your neighborhood ensure that we'll have, say, a leader who doesn't alienate his closest ally and biggest trading partner and let the anti-americans in his party run off at the mouth. That's just naive, Dan. In a perfect world great parks=great government. But it just doesn't work that way, and you know what? That's democracy too.


Ben
June 12, 2007 / 08:27

Don't understand the more parks comment or that relevance myself, but here http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/offshore_dispute


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